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....on the [livejournal.com profile] ra_log

As a maintainer, I get to look at the tags by usage if I so choose. Do you want to know which pubs get the most traffic from us?

In order of submissions reported by RALOGers, the top 10 (since March 2008):
1) Fantasy Magazine* (56)
2) Strange Horizons* (47)
3) A.S.I.M. (41)
4) F&SF* (38)
5) Lone Star Stories (37)
6) JBU* (36)
7) Clarkesworld* (34)
7) Weird Tales (34)
9) IGMS* (26)
9) Beneath Ceaseless Skies (26)
11) Asimov's* (25)
11) Abyss & Apex (25)

So, these are the mags our RALOGers favor. How very interesting.

Some other interesting points from the list...

SFWA 'approved' markets not in the top ten:
13) Realms of Fantasy* (20)
22) WOTF* (10)
Analog* (7)
Chizine* (7)
Pedestal* (7) (SBT just added one)
Brutarian* (5)
Cosmos* (4)
Cemeterey Dance* (3)

Some interesting anthologies (various iterations, though)
Clockwork Phoenix (15)
Sword & Sorceress (13)
Polyphony (8)
Wolfsongs (2)
Warrior Wisewoman (1)
(I'd heard that CP got a gazillion subs last time...this seems to bear that out)

*SFWA Pro Approved Market. Yes, I'm putting one on Fantasy now, since they have their info turned in to SFWA. This doesn't, sadly, retroactively affect the stories I've sold there.

Date: 2008-12-01 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wistling.livejournal.com
Dunno if WOTF is indicative. Some of us who use this group have invalidated ourselves from the running.

Date: 2008-12-01 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-cheney.livejournal.com
Very true. I don't know how many, though. (It would take some work to figure that out, and I'm too lazy.)

Date: 2008-12-01 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aliettedb.livejournal.com
Cosmos is I think clogged, last time I checked (it was a while ago).
Chizine has fairly restrictive wordcounts and a fairly restrictive genre (Clarkesworld, for instance, takes both fantasy, horror and SF; Chizine just takes horror; and judging from where Cemetery Dance is on the list, I suspect more of us write SF & F than horror).

(my totally random explanation :) )

Date: 2008-12-01 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-cheney.livejournal.com
I was intrigued by the high standing of LSS on the list...probalby because of the super-speedy turnaround....

Date: 2008-12-01 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melissajm.livejournal.com
Interesting!

Date: 2008-12-02 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grayrose76.livejournal.com
Am I missing something? Did Fantasy go pro?

Date: 2008-12-02 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-cheney.livejournal.com
Yes. They raised their rates about a week ago, and they've filed the appropriate stuff with SFWA. SFWA will take a bit to get around to acknowledging that, but I figure any contract at the new 5 cent rate will qualify as pro.

Ww don't get a free in, though. We just have to write more stuff for them. ;o)

Date: 2008-12-02 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grayrose76.livejournal.com
Do you know if the rate kicks in at the time of acceptance or the time of publication? Mine came out today?

Ehhh... I seem to be writing nothing but copious lecture notes this semester. :(

Date: 2008-12-02 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-cheney.livejournal.com
Sorry. I expect that whatever the rate cited on your contract is the rate in effect. So that's the rate at time of acceptance, not payment.

However, if you get a much bigger check than your contract specifies, let me know, because I've got another story coming up in a couple of months there....

Date: 2008-12-02 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ken-schneyer.livejournal.com
Please to observe that most of the markets in your top eleven accept electronic submissions, and a large proportion of those in your "SFWA but not in top ten" group don't. L.J. is an electronic medium, you see. Q. E. Deedleedee...

Date: 2008-12-02 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-cheney.livejournal.com
I did notice that. ;o)

And this is, of course, only a partial year so far, so it's certainly not a solid sampling of the market returns. Just the people in the RALOG....

I was also impressed by how quickly BCS jumped into the top 10, suggesting that there might have been a lot of stories in that area out seeking homes.

Date: 2008-12-02 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justin-pilon.livejournal.com
Combination of pro-rates, quick response time, and detailed personal rejections. Who wouldn't want to sub (mind you I still haven't...)

Date: 2008-12-02 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-cheney.livejournal.com
well, get out there....

Date: 2008-12-02 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] david-de-beer.livejournal.com
about to say the same thing:)

Date: 2008-12-02 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] david-de-beer.livejournal.com
these are also the markets with the fastest turnarounds which probably influences it a bit.
interesting stats, ta JK.

Date: 2008-12-02 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-cheney.livejournal.com
I did notice the turnaround factor. F&SF is high, despite being snail mail. ROF is, OTOH, lower, probably due to slower times.

Date: 2008-12-02 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] david-de-beer.livejournal.com
are we on the verge of discovering a whole new layer of rejectomancy here?

Date: 2008-12-03 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-cheney.livejournal.com
There must be some clue in here....must be...

Date: 2008-12-02 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justin-pilon.livejournal.com
Interesting stats. Personal comments and speedy response times seem to be the deciding factors. But some of these high-sub mags don't really fit that criteria.

Date: 2008-12-02 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-cheney.livejournal.com
I could go back an poll people, but I'm not going to bother. And I'll redo this at the years end and post the revised version on the RA-Log---just to let people know.

Date: 2008-12-02 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justin-pilon.livejournal.com
Cool! I'm a bit of a stats junky so I always enjoy these kind of posts.

Date: 2008-12-02 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] safewrite.livejournal.com
We equal Asimov's???

Interesting.

Date: 2008-12-02 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-cheney.livejournal.com
I thought so to. Also, you were above ROF...it's probably skewed by the more on-line oriented crowd that uses this forum, but you were still impressively high ;o)

Date: 2008-12-02 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ckastens.livejournal.com
Very interesting.

Looks like response time is a big factor. Especially when people have a lot of stories to send out, you can sometimes send three to the same place while waiting for another magazine to respond.

Date: 2008-12-03 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-cheney.livejournal.com
Yes, I definitely think response time influences wehre we're sending things.

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